Interview between Mark Driscoll and rapper lecrae. Very interesting.
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Interview between Mark Driscoll and rapper lecrae. Very interesting.
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So I assume most people have heard the news about Ray Boltz by now. As I have had some time to think about this, a couple of questions come to mind. Ray talks about his conversion experience and says “
Boltz injured his back in 1972 and was in the hospital when a visiting minister invited him to Jacob’s Well, a Christian coffeehouse in nearby Harper City, Ind. When Boltz recovered, he checked it out, saw gospel group the Fisherman perform and had a life-altering experience.
“That evening had a profound impact on my life,” he says. “I realized that this was the truth and that Jesus was alive … that’s really where I made a commitment to Christ. I decided I could be born again and all of the things I was feeling in the past would fall away and I would have this new life.”
He became a regular at Jacob’s and met Carol Brammer at its upstairs Christian bookstore later that year. They attended Bible studies together and eventually wed in 1975.
Contrast this with
Not many in CCM seemed to think anything was awry. Boltz says people just assumed he was ready for a break after so many years on the road.
The early months in Florida felt strange and different, but also liberating.
His faith was in transition — tenants he’d adhered to all his life suddenly were up for reconsideration, but there was a peace he hadn’t felt before.
“I had a lot of questions [about faith], but at the bottom of everything was a feeling that I didn’t hate myself anymore, so in that sense I felt closer to God.”
Boltz declines to go into specifics about the first time he was with a man, but says he has been dating and lives “a normal gay life” now.
What happened? I believe the Christian Community is more concerned with celebrity than with biblical living. What do I mean? Ray evidently lost his first love. If there was such a profound conversion, why did he then feel like there was no power in the Gospel? Could it be that we put him on a pedestal as someone who had all the answers and put him in a position to not be able to deal with all of his issues? Maybe our love of celebrity has once again fostered an atmosphere where people want to go hear a “guru” give us something profound. This does nothing but isolate the “guru” and leave the followers wanting more.
Jesus gave us instruction on how to not fall into these traps. He told us to 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.”Amen. Matt. 28 19-20. If we were more concerned with disciple making, we would not get caught up in the worldly desire of celebrity. Discipleship requires us to get real with people and share our burdens, not just travel from town to town giving our little gospel nuggets and moving on to the next crowd.
The Apostle Paul addressed this very issue of celebrity in 1Corintians when he said: 12 Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” 13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul? 14 I thank God that I baptized none of you except Crispus and Gaius, 15 lest anyone should say that I had baptized in my own name. 16 Yes, I also baptized the household of Stephanas. Besides, I do not know whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.
Our desire for celebrity makes “the cross of Christ should be made of no effect.” Wow, let that sink in.
I pray for Mr. Boltz. I pray that he will take his eyes off his selfishness and re-connect with the Christ of his conversion. But shouldn’t that be the prayer we all pray? Lord please deliver me from my selfishness.
I pray for the people that his celebrity has led astray, and I pray that we never give up on the fight of sin just because it is hard.
Is this confession by Ray Boltz another example of “Greasy Grace”? Why is immoral, selfish behavior now acceptable just because it raises his self esteem? More to come……
Here is the full article from the Washington Blade
Ray Boltz wanted to do something nice.
He’d visited the mostly gay Jesus Metropolitan Community Church in Indianapolis and liked Rev. Jeff Miner, so he decided to give him a copy of his 1997 holiday recording, “A Christmas Album.”
It was one of 16 albums Boltz, 55, recorded during a nearly 20-year recording career that saw the Muncie, Ind., native become one of the better-known singer/songwriters in Contemporary Christian Music, a genre born out of the Jesus Movement of the early 1970s that made singers like Amy Grant, Sandi Patty, Michael W. Smith and Steven Curtis Chapman superstars in religious music with occasional excursions into mainstream pop culture. Continue reading
Did anyone not see this one coming? After the “show” in Lakeland began to spin down, all sorts of claims have come out about Mr. Bentley. As if his horrendous doctrine and his violent “ministry” were not enough, now we start seeing the fallout. But what do you expect from when people are more worried about “feeling” something than actually developing relationships and discipling. Read this from Christianitytoday:
The evangelist at the centre of contentious revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida, has filed for separation from his wife.
Todd Bentley has also taken the decision to step down from the leadership of his organisation, Fresh Fire Ministries, which announced in a statement on its website that the evangelist had “entered into an unhealthy relationship on an emotional level with a female member of his staff”.
“On behalf of the Fresh Fire leadership and the Board of Directors, we wish to apologise to our friends and partners and to the larger body of Christ and to ask for your forgiveness,” the statement said.
The heavily tattooed evangelist courted controversy in recent months as videos began circulating on the Internet, apparently showing Bentley at raucous revival meetings using violence to heal sick people in the audience and shove people to the ground whilst shouting ‘Bam’. Critics have also questioned his claims of miraculous healing and raising people from the dead.
Chad Brand, professor of Christian theology at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, told Baptist Press, “What is plain is that he is teaching false doctrine and that the claims to his ministry’s ‘successes’ seem pretty spurious.”
Stephen Strang, the publisher of Pentecostal magazine Charisma, wrote in a column last week, “Anyone who baptises people in the name of the Father, the Son ‘and BAM’ is playing lightly with the Holy Spirit and is bordering on blasphemy.”
Bentley and his wife, Shonnah, were in counselling for the last three years before their decision to separate. The Fresh Fire statement said that Bentley would “refrain from all public ministry for a season to receive counsel in his personal life”.
Ray Boltz, who sold about 4.5 million records before retiring from Christian music a few years ago, came out of the closet Friday to announce that he’s gay.
In an interview with the gay magazine The Washington Blade, Boltz said he came out to his family and some close friends in December 2004, but only now decided to go public with the news.
“I’d denied it ever since I was a kid,” Boltz, 55, told the magazine. “I became a Christian, I thought that was the way to deal with this and I prayed hard and tried for 30-some years and then at the end, I was just going, ‘I’m still gay. I know I am.’ And I just got to the place where I couldn’t take it anymore … when I was going through all this darkness, I thought, ‘Just end this.’”
One reason Boltz decided to come out now might be because he’s performing Sunday at Jesus Metropolitan Community Church in Indianapolis, and then next Sunday, Sept. 21, at the Metropolitan Community Church of Washington, D.C. Both congregations are a part of a denomination that embraces the LGBT (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender) community.
Boltz is perhaps best known for his song “Thank You,” about a dream in which a Christian thanks the Sunday school teacher who led him to Jesus. It was the GMA song of the year in 1990. Other Boltz hits include “Watch the Lamb,” “The Anchor Holds,” and “I Pledge Allegiance to the Lamb.”
Boltz also told The Blade that he doesn’t want to get into debates about Scripture and has no plans to “go into First Baptist or an Assembly of God church and run in there and say, ‘I’m gay and you need to love me anyway.’”
For him, the decision to come out is much more personal.
“This is what it really comes down to,” he says. “If this is the way God made me, then this is the way I’m going to live. It’s not like God made me this way and he’ll send me to hell if I am who he created me to be … I really feel closer to God because I no longer hate myself.”
Earlier, Boltz had alluded to the issue on his official website, saying that if people “knew who I really was, I would never be accepted.”
I would love to hear your opinions about this. What should our attitude as the Church be toward this?
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